Different opinions have been expressed about early minting in Riga. Mostly, the authors have relied on the first written source of 1211 which prescribed the minting standard in Riga, although even a much later date of 1225 has also been considered possible. A recent hoard from Western Estonia, consisting of German, Swedish, Gotlandic and English coins as well as silver bars and ornaments, contained also a penny of the Bishop of Riga. Since the tpq of the whole hoard (124 coins so far) is ca. 1200 (Short cross penny, class 4b), the Riga coin cannot be much younger either.